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Nancy Mackevich Glazer

Desiree,

Your program is novel, practical and a win-win for all involved: law students and grads, prospective employers and, yes, even the law schools. Brilliant!

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Doug Richmond

You think teaching someone to go into a more senior lawyer's only with a pad and pen is meaningful advice? It's important to teach that it is OK to leave an assignment on an assigning lawyer's chair? these things pass as "novel" and "practical" advice, according to Nancy Glazer? As a former partner at a large law firm, I can only say: Wow. I hope no one has to pay for your services.

Desiree Moore

Dear Mr. Richmond,

Thanks for your comment. This post was not about my program but about a realistic way to enhance practical skills training in law schools without making fundamental changes to existing law school curricula. Since you mentioned my program, I urge you to take a closer look at the training we offer - and testimonials in support of this training. Moreover, if you have suggestions for the types of practical skills training you believe new lawyers require, our programs are built on the input and advice of attorneys from all walks of the legal community and we would be happy to consider your thoughts (to the extent they are not already covered - and they likely are). If this is a topic you are truly passionate about, as we are, please do not hesitate to email me at desiree@greenhornlegal.com to continue the dialogue.

Thanks and best regards,

Desiree Moore

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While it is certainly good to see schools thinking outside of the box and trying to provide real world skills, the program also represents one of the common ways schools fool themselves about the opportunities they offer.

This class was offered to only 90 out of 240 students, less than 40%, and based on how fast it filled up, you can safely assume that many students who wanted this training were unable to get it.

Hopefully the school offered a second (or even a third) class that semester, but it is quite common for schools to brag about the opportunities they offer without ever mentioning how few students get those opportunities.

For instance, looking at the clinics offered at NYU, they typically take 15-20 students each year. If all you care about is taking a clinic -any clinic- you'll probably get in to one. If you care about the practice area, you may easily find it over-enrolled. There is one business law clinic, takes 16 people each year, out of a class of 450. That's a clinic offered to only 3.6% of students. Mediation clinic takes half that, just 8 for the year.

When schools are charging over $40,000 a year, they really need to do a better job of providing students with real opportunities.

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I have been working as a paargelal for many years, and I can tell you I have NEVER worked with someone who attended an online program. I don't think ANY solely online program is sufficient.With regard to the ABA approval mentioned by a previous poster, the ABA's rules for approval EXCLUDE all solely online programs.If you can swing it, the closest thing to an online program that is likely to be accepted is called a limited residency program. These can be approved by the ABA.You definitely want a regionally accredited school, and if a school tells you it's licensed by some official-sounding government body, see if you can find out what types of schools the agency approves there's at least one paargelal school in NY licensed by the NYS Education Department, which sounds good until you realize that agency primarily licenses hairdresser and bartending schools, and there are no ABA approved programs licensed by that agency.Also watch out for programs that claim affiliation with a paargelal organization. Some do so without authority from the organization, and others create their own paargelal associations for the sole purpose of listing membership! There are some sneaks out there because the business of running a paargelal school is lucrative if you don't have the costs of a quality program.

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Amy, you don't know it but I met you through lanistreimevg video from the ABA tech show in Chicago!I hope we do get to meet in the future and thank you for your kind words about Solo Practice University. We're working very hard on it and Chris is one terrific faculty member.Say 'Hello' to Laurie when you meet her next week!

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