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March 26, 2012

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Surprised!

Say What? You are willing to summarily try and convict a human being without even knowing the facts first hand? Is that the justice you are fighting for in this country becuase from what I can recall, that was already done in the past with the witch trials and lynch mobs, etc. You have already determined that police should be fired, states boycotted, and people arrested and probably killed if you had your way. I am surprised that anyone would want this type of justice in this country or anywhere. Neither I or you have the facts. What if every special interest group in this country organized and just handled their own justice whenever they wanted something to happen? Is that what you are arguing for in your lenghtly dissertation about how black people should stand up for themselves?? I am quite shocked to say the least

Justin Case

Blind:

Your post makes you sound like Jerry Rivers, er, Geraldo.....and he apologized for his lame comment! Clothes don't make a person a criminal!! From what twisted mindset did you derive that....?

And get the facts straight about Trayvon: he put his hood over his his when it started RAINING. You apparently did not hear the phone recording between him and his girlfriend.

We also know that while Zimmerman had the right, by Florida law, to carry a concealed weapon, he was not trained on the use of said weapon.....while carrying it with the potential to use (or misuse) it in the vicinity of homes and pedestrians. Scary thought, considering the years of arms training I've had. While I'm all in favor of a neighborhood watch, the carrying of arms should be left up to the police.....or at least those with firearms training/law enforcement training....neither of which did Mr. Zimmerman have!

ColorBlindJustice

The willfully unassimilated rantings below go along way in explaining why many black men continue to be treated as outsiders and second-class citizens.

Ther fact is that Malik Zulu Shabazz is and always has been a jobless charlatan looking to "get over" by any means necessary. When he's not conning his own people out of their nickels and dimes, he's trying to run an attorney's fee con on Uncle Sam. Sorry, Malik, Homey don't play ‘dat.

As for the Tawana Brawley, er, I mean Trayvon Martin case, no one needs to make excuses for reported shooter George Zimmerman to question the recent obsession with it all by the so-called black "community" and the ratings- and circulation-seeking liberal media.

Everyone's talking about the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin as though they were there or have watched a videotape. They’re acting as though it's absolutely impossible that young Mr. Martin, having realized he was being followed and not yet knowing that Mr. Zimmerman was armed, turned on Zimmerman and began, as the initial police investigation of Zimmerman’s injuries and the crime scene suggest, a physical assault that tragically led to his death. Folks want to pretend that our jails and prisons aren't full of fatherless young black men who, aspiring to thug life, committed and were convicted for hot-headed violent crimes against victims who were not fortunate enough to be armed with handguns. No one wants to talk about the fact that black men, comprising barely 6% of the U.S. population, perpetrate more than 50% of the nation's homicides year after year (source: DOJ), killing mostly other black folk.

Earlier this month a Department of Education report bemoaned the fact that blacks and Hispanics are far more likely than whites and Asian-Americans to be suspended or expelled from school for out-of-control behavior. Of course, the report ignores the fact that blacks and Hispanics are also far more likely to be raised without the loving discipline of fathers in their lives. But ask any teacher or principal; if they're candid, they’ll tell you that black kids far too often fly off the handle into violence at the slightest provocation. And while there may be any number of underlying reasons for this self-destructive behavior and even some things we as a society can and should do to mitigate it, we certainly won't make any progress if we’re afraid to acknowledge these behavioral problems or, worse, keep making excuses for them.

In any case, unless we're all to believe that Trayvon Martin behaved nothing like his too often violent, too often unsocialized peers, it seems at least plausible that his displeasure with being followed and monitored by Mr. Zimmerman -- as he walked through a gated community where he did not live, wearing his hood over his head in the warm Florida air -- may well have sparked in him the adolescent desire to beat down a perceived antagonist.

We'll all learn more about this fateful encounter when additional investigations are complete. Meanwhile, fellow posters here and parents and grandparents throughout black America might want to seize this as a teaching moment and explain to their young men and women that nothing good can come of dressing like thug wannabes and seeking out violent encounters when walking away is the smarter play. (Hey, how’s that for an urban billboard campaign? “Walk away. It’s the smarter play.” Maybe the Revs. Al and Jesse can spearhead a funding drive.)

EL-SHABAZZ ALLAH

THE KILLING OF OUR SON [TRAYVON MARTIN] IN FLORIDA AND THE REACTION OF THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUR SO CALLED BLACK/”NEGRO” LEADERSHIP, PROVES THAT AS A PEOPLE OUR MEMORY IS VERY SHORT, IN REGARD TO THE MEANS AND METHODS WE USE IN ORDER TO BRING ABOUT REAL CHANGE. THOSE WHO FAIL TO STUDY HISTORY ARE SUBJECT TO REPEAT IT, TIME AND TIME AGAIN. OUR LEADERSHIP IS LEADING US IN CIRCLES, MARCHING UP AND DOWN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY WITHOUT ANY HOPE OF POSITIVE RESULTS.
IF DR. KING WAS ALIVE TODAY I BELIEVE HE WOULD IMMEDIATELY CALL ON US TO PULL EVERY DIME, NICKLE AND PENNY OUT OF WALT DISNEY AND HE WOULD TELL US TO FORGO BUYING FLORIDA ORANGE JUICE, DISCONTINUE SPENDING OUR MONIES ON SPRING BREAK IN FLORIDA AND DISCONTINUE WHATEVER SUPPORT WE GIVE THE NEWS PAPER THERE IN FLORIA THAT FAILED TO REPORT AND COVER THE STORY, UNTIL THERE IS AN ARREST AND JUSTICE IS SEVERED. HE FURTHER WOULD DEMAND THAT THE "STAND YOUR GROUND LAW" BE REPEALED FOR STARTERS AND EVERY POLICE OFFICER THAT TOOK PART IN THE INVESTIGATION AND THE POLICE COMMISSIONER FIRED.
LET US REMEMBER, THAT WE ARE RIDING AND SITTING ON THE SEAT OF OUR CHOICE ON ANY BUS, PLANE, TRAIN ETC TODAY, BECAUSE OF THE EFFECTIVE STRUGGLES OF THOSE YESTERDAY. IF YOU ALL DON'T DEMAND ANYTHING FROM YOUR LEADERSHIP THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU NOTHING. WE MUST STUDY HISTORY AND STOP BEING THE VICTIMS OF HISTORY AND ALLOW IT TO SERVE US. WHAT WAS USED AND WORKED YESTERDAY WILL WORK TODAY. TELL BROTHA AL SHARPIN TO CALL THE STRIKE AND STOP PUSSY FOOTIN AROUND AND GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS OF JUSTICE.
SO NOW THAT YOU'VE READ THIS, FORWARD THIS TO LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. PULL UP YOUR PANTS AND GET BUSY. IF YOU FAIL TO PLAIN, YOU PLAIN TO FAIL.

hebrew kane

First let me introduce myself. My name is Hebrew Kane.

Since this incident with the trayvon martin case, i have yet to express my opinion of the new black panther’s right to react.

Yes maybe violence is not the answer, but can someone answer this question for me please.

Why do we as black americans feel compelled to fight injustice for the country we live in, but when it comes to the injustice that continues to be heaped upon us, we find excuses not to defend ourselves.
• Are we less important as humans then whites or other races?
• Are we so afraid of the authorities that we find excuses to withstand these unjustifiable punishments?
• And why do we justify our participation in america’s so-called wars against terroist, axis of evil and enemies of the state. But refuse to defend ourselves against the very one who commit these acts of injustice against us? AMERICA!!!!

I have asked many black men this question. And their answer is “BECAUSE GOD SAYS, WE MUST BE OBEDIENT TO THE AUTHORITIES.”

And this is so. For the scriptures at *Romans 13:1-6 testify to this fact. But is this the real reason why we obey?.

1. Black men say the obedience is to honor God. OK, So why do black men violate other principals of God like; cheating on one’s spouse, having sex outside of marriage, lies against the bible, lies to cover for their country, lies to get extra money from their taxes,etc…. ARE THESE NOT VIOLATIONS AGAINST THE BIBLE AS WELL?
1 Cor. 6:9,10 makes it plain and clear how God feel about Adultery and Fornication. (these being the most serious violations against GOD.) so if this is true, why do we violate these laws but claim to obey another law?

So is it really because we believe in God’s word why we are obedient to the laws of this land, Or is it because we fear the authorities of THIS COUNTRY?
If so, this is not for the good reason. but because “fear of man can lay a snare.” Proverbs 29:25
Also consider Mal. 1:8 please read it.

In-fact, Romans 13: 1-6 should be understood this way:
whether I am an american, russian, white, black or otherwise, “A person should have in subjection all governments of all nations” regardless of how your leaders or peers may feel about someone’s race or nationality. And if you are pressed into service for war, you would reject any offers. Or else you would be violating that command!!!!!!!!!!!!

2. Black men do not have a wholesome fear of God, but an unhealhtyfear of the authorities in America! When it comes to deciding who we should show our loyalty to, man or God. We should say as the apostle peter said. Acts 5:29 “We will obey God as ruler rather than man.”

See, fear shouldn’t make us compromise our bible beliefs to appease man. If we submit to one law of God’s, we should be obedient to all of His laws.

So when it comes to respecting the authorities of this country, we must show the same respect for other countries.
If we encounter injustice from the police because of our race and soforth. And we withstand the abuse and seek justice by the law of the land. We should respect the laws of other races, nationalities and land. And not join in war because your country tells you to so.

Never should we hate or act wickedly against someone who did absolutely nothing against us. Proverbs 3:30

How hypocritical we are as black americans when we go to war whenever the majority of white america feel threathen.
If violence is not the answer (and you right, it's not the answer), why do black americans feel compel to do it to other people without a cause. But so afraid to do it to the ONLY NATION that has given us true reasons?

Let's go back in history to the beginning of the party and examine why there is no black panther party today.
I read the mission of the panther's goal. And this was one reason why i loved the cause. Yes it should be about building up the black community and educating and supporting our people. And being a chicagoan, Fred Hampton's death was a tragedy and sad outcome for such an energetic and positive young man. But his life was snuffed out by the authorities. The F.B.I. and the chicago mayor and his police force.

AND he was betrayed by his own. And the results was a violent act of guns and hateful men who did’nt think that black men has the right to live! And much hasn’t changed today! So you can’t get mad and blast out this new group for their feelings of vengence.

What the new panther party is trying to accomplish is (get the band aid and alcohol out to sooth the cuts from this comment), to do what the original panther party didn't do. Eliminate the problem.
If it is ok to go and defend the country from terrorist, enemies and axis of evil. So then, DO blacks in america have that SAME RIGHT against his enemies? HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!

Has the master's whip left a lasting impression on blacks in america that they are truly afraid to stand up for what is RIGHT? That is to the injustice that is constantly being heaped upon them?
Why do we have such a fear of the authorities in this country that we allow the treatment of injustice, false imprisonment, and equality of rights to be our “way of life?”

The real problem is not the new panther party, but the long history of injustice by a nation who feel that they have the right to do WRONG.
And nothing has changed. WHY? Because until we stand up and fight back, they will always feel obliged to attack us because they know, we as black men are afraid of them!


And it will continue until either one or two things happen.
1. Blacks stand up and eliminate the cause. Do as america did and supported in libya, GET RID OF THOSE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ACTS OF INJUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Wait on God’s kingdom to put an end to all evil human governments Daniel 2:44

The rebels who ousted their leader and president moamar gadhafi, mabarak and other world leaders that america felt threathen by or (really, did not like these individuals) hated were backed by your black president, congress and other political and officals supported .

They assisted in the capture and ousting of these people saying that “they mistreated their citizens and must be removed or KILLED!!!!!!!!!
Do not these words sound hypocritical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If america felt the need to support such groups and back them and their cause. Which was acts of violence. Do blacks in america have the same right? So your president, congress and the like, such not even open their mouth if this type of erruption happens. You can’t on one hand say YEA and on the other hand say NEA. Yes the new black panther is right. EYE FOR EYE, TOOTH FOR TOOTH.

Maybe the new panther party isn't a part of the original party, but is their mission any less justified as america’s, russia’s, britian or others?
Why do america, especially black america oppose their mission or cause, when you support and participate in american’s unjustly wars of hatred and murder. HYPOCRITES YOU ARE!!!!!!!

Now I noticed that the statement mentioned here is to make a distinction between the real or original purpose of the black panther party and this new group. WELL UNDERSTOOD.
But is it necessary to put their cause down.

You did’nt like it when during our era, many blacks (out of fear) opposed your cause. And felt that your group was thugs and rebels. So please, consider other groups for what they feel is right.

Hopefully the new group will see that violence is not the answer. In-fact the bible states” that man's wrath does not promote God's righteousness” (James 1:20)

So before we oppose one group for their cause. Let’s make sure that we’re not supporting another group and their unjust causes. Else we will be put us in the same light we put someone else. AVOID double standards causes.

Thanks

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